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		<title>By: Jeffry Pilcher &#124; TheFinancialBrand.com</title>
		<link>http://snarketing2dot0.com/2010/07/08/marketings-dominant-logic/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffry Pilcher &#124; TheFinancialBrand.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke, to summarize: Don&#039;t talk about your features. Talk about their benefits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, to summarize: Don&#8217;t talk about your features. Talk about their benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Owen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Been awhile since I made a visit to the tea party and what better time then now. Great post Ron. So to clarify, the dominant logic hasn&#039;t change in that we need to be consistent with our message it&#039;s more that the message should be more centered around the user / consumers experience and not so much around the product you&#039;re selling. In other words, focusing more on the customer experience side of your business versus the &quot;our shiny widgets are better then those other shiny widgets&quot; approach of old. If so, couldn&#039;t agree more. Hope to have more time to visit now that I&#039;m getting settled at my new position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been awhile since I made a visit to the tea party and what better time then now. Great post Ron. So to clarify, the dominant logic hasn&#8217;t change in that we need to be consistent with our message it&#8217;s more that the message should be more centered around the user / consumers experience and not so much around the product you&#8217;re selling. In other words, focusing more on the customer experience side of your business versus the &#8220;our shiny widgets are better then those other shiny widgets&#8221; approach of old. If so, couldn&#8217;t agree more. Hope to have more time to visit now that I&#8217;m getting settled at my new position.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeffry/Freddy: Thanks for the comments. Honestly, I&#039;m not sure how to reply, other than to say I think you helped make my case that, for all the talk about the &quot;new&quot; marketing, that the old &quot;dominant logic&quot; really hasn&#039;t changed: It&#039;s STILL about figuring how to reach someone and hit them upside the head with your marketing message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffry/Freddy: Thanks for the comments. Honestly, I&#8217;m not sure how to reply, other than to say I think you helped make my case that, for all the talk about the &#8220;new&#8221; marketing, that the old &#8220;dominant logic&#8221; really hasn&#8217;t changed: It&#8217;s STILL about figuring how to reach someone and hit them upside the head with your marketing message.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy J. Nager, Atomic Tango</title>
		<link>http://snarketing2dot0.com/2010/07/08/marketings-dominant-logic/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddy J. Nager, Atomic Tango]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jeffry: the tools you use depend on your target and your needs, and the most effective campaigns integrate a number of tools.

Hypothetical example: If I&#039;m trying to pitch a new investment vehicle to senior citizens, an old-school commercial during &quot;60 Minutes&quot; is probably a better bet than a Facebook ad. To ensure awareness, I might combine that with some print in a dead-tree newspaper, a snail-mail delivered direct-marketing piece, and publicly-trumpted sponsorship of local symphony orchestras.

Another example: If the target of my marketing is other businesses (as is the case with my agency), then the tools I opt for involve more direct, in-person interaction, such as conferences and networking events. Only after I meet my prospective customers and swap some analog business cards, I might invite them to read a relevant post on my blog. Facebook will likely never enter the equation. (None of my current clients even have personal Facebook accounts.)

So, yes, there might be dominant forms of logic in marketing, just as there might be dominant strategies in professional football. But in both cases, they apply only to certain situations and circumstances -- and they might become obsolete as soon as some strategic genius creates an end-around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jeffry: the tools you use depend on your target and your needs, and the most effective campaigns integrate a number of tools.</p>
<p>Hypothetical example: If I&#8217;m trying to pitch a new investment vehicle to senior citizens, an old-school commercial during &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; is probably a better bet than a Facebook ad. To ensure awareness, I might combine that with some print in a dead-tree newspaper, a snail-mail delivered direct-marketing piece, and publicly-trumpted sponsorship of local symphony orchestras.</p>
<p>Another example: If the target of my marketing is other businesses (as is the case with my agency), then the tools I opt for involve more direct, in-person interaction, such as conferences and networking events. Only after I meet my prospective customers and swap some analog business cards, I might invite them to read a relevant post on my blog. Facebook will likely never enter the equation. (None of my current clients even have personal Facebook accounts.)</p>
<p>So, yes, there might be dominant forms of logic in marketing, just as there might be dominant strategies in professional football. But in both cases, they apply only to certain situations and circumstances &#8212; and they might become obsolete as soon as some strategic genius creates an end-around.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffry Pilcher &#124; TheFinancialBrand.com</title>
		<link>http://snarketing2dot0.com/2010/07/08/marketings-dominant-logic/#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffry Pilcher &#124; TheFinancialBrand.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The manner in which someone learns about a brand is not always the same thing that influences their decision to ultimately purchase. Marketing is certainly changing, but the basic principles haven&#039;t. Marketers still need to create name awareness regardless of which media they choose to use. However, marketers who rely on word-of-mouth for basic name awareness will struggle.

Why does the debate so often get framed as either/or: mass marketing or word-of-mouth (pick one)? There are lots of tools in the marketers toolbox, and not all of them do the same things equally well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The manner in which someone learns about a brand is not always the same thing that influences their decision to ultimately purchase. Marketing is certainly changing, but the basic principles haven&#8217;t. Marketers still need to create name awareness regardless of which media they choose to use. However, marketers who rely on word-of-mouth for basic name awareness will struggle.</p>
<p>Why does the debate so often get framed as either/or: mass marketing or word-of-mouth (pick one)? There are lots of tools in the marketers toolbox, and not all of them do the same things equally well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sleeper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sleeper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to work in radio. Up until the late 90&#039;s, I played - Sun morning jazz show. But from &#039;75 to &#039;80 I worked nites at a dominant progressive rock FM...back when AM was the music king. Got to play pretty much whatever I wanted. (Dead, Who, etc.) Had a big share of the nighttime audience.

But there were so few media choices then. No Internet, cable TV, iTunes. We were it, unless you wanted to hear &quot;Having My Baby&quot; every 20 minutes. But now broadcast radio has become homogenized. It can still be profitable - but less audience share - expenses remain. It&#039;s boxed in pretty tight creatively - esp. in mid sized markets like Omaha.

Facebook cuts though that. Very little cost. Huge audience. And I believe it can be both the new mass media, or a &quot;narrowcast&quot; channel because of the ability to segment. There&#039;s room to be creative - stretch out a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work in radio. Up until the late 90&#8242;s, I played &#8211; Sun morning jazz show. But from &#8217;75 to &#8217;80 I worked nites at a dominant progressive rock FM&#8230;back when AM was the music king. Got to play pretty much whatever I wanted. (Dead, Who, etc.) Had a big share of the nighttime audience.</p>
<p>But there were so few media choices then. No Internet, cable TV, iTunes. We were it, unless you wanted to hear &#8220;Having My Baby&#8221; every 20 minutes. But now broadcast radio has become homogenized. It can still be profitable &#8211; but less audience share &#8211; expenses remain. It&#8217;s boxed in pretty tight creatively &#8211; esp. in mid sized markets like Omaha.</p>
<p>Facebook cuts though that. Very little cost. Huge audience. And I believe it can be both the new mass media, or a &#8220;narrowcast&#8221; channel because of the ability to segment. There&#8217;s room to be creative &#8211; stretch out a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Shevlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve: And TV didn&#039;t kill radio. Here&#039;s the thing: To your question &quot;how mass will the mass media outlets be 15 years from now?&quot;, the answer is &quot;less&quot;. No doubt about it. But what few of the so-called social media experts out there seem to understand is that Facebook IS THE NEW MASS MEDIA.

And so, in a few years, when marketers want to reach a LOT OF PEOPLE, fast and cheap, they&#039;ll turn to Facebook. And they&#039;ll &quot;broadcast&quot; messages designed to reach the masses. And maybe -- just maybe -- the delusion that Facebook and social media represent some new and different kind of dominant logic in marketing will be understood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: And TV didn&#8217;t kill radio. Here&#8217;s the thing: To your question &#8220;how mass will the mass media outlets be 15 years from now?&#8221;, the answer is &#8220;less&#8221;. No doubt about it. But what few of the so-called social media experts out there seem to understand is that Facebook IS THE NEW MASS MEDIA.</p>
<p>And so, in a few years, when marketers want to reach a LOT OF PEOPLE, fast and cheap, they&#8217;ll turn to Facebook. And they&#8217;ll &#8220;broadcast&#8221; messages designed to reach the masses. And maybe &#8212; just maybe &#8212; the delusion that Facebook and social media represent some new and different kind of dominant logic in marketing will be understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sleeper</title>
		<link>http://snarketing2dot0.com/2010/07/08/marketings-dominant-logic/#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Sleeper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pundits will always claim death. Not always the case. Direct mail is dead? Grandpa pundit claimed TV was going to kill movies.

Direct mail is a great way to drive new account openings into branches. But the US Postal System is hemorrhaging money. Three day a week delivery should be seen in our lifetimes. Branches will be smaller with less of a transactional purpose. Direct mail will have to be more targeted. But it will still be part of the mix.

Ron, you’re right. The picture is murky with old marketing channels. But one does not need a fancy crystal ball to see newspapers are on the decline. How mass will the mass media outlets be 15 years from now?

The natural decline of the old channels along with the rise of the new can only mean marketing’s dominant logic is changing. A 360 degree change in marketing production and outlets used to happen every 250 years. Then it was every 50 years. Now it seems like it’s every 50 days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pundits will always claim death. Not always the case. Direct mail is dead? Grandpa pundit claimed TV was going to kill movies.</p>
<p>Direct mail is a great way to drive new account openings into branches. But the US Postal System is hemorrhaging money. Three day a week delivery should be seen in our lifetimes. Branches will be smaller with less of a transactional purpose. Direct mail will have to be more targeted. But it will still be part of the mix.</p>
<p>Ron, you’re right. The picture is murky with old marketing channels. But one does not need a fancy crystal ball to see newspapers are on the decline. How mass will the mass media outlets be 15 years from now?</p>
<p>The natural decline of the old channels along with the rise of the new can only mean marketing’s dominant logic is changing. A 360 degree change in marketing production and outlets used to happen every 250 years. Then it was every 50 years. Now it seems like it’s every 50 days.</p>
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		<title>By: CU Water Cooler &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CU Water Cooler 7/9</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ron Shevlin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Shevlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis: Thanks for commenting. You make a great point about the economics of communications and marketers&#039; lack of control.

But why has the economics of communication changed? Because of technology. We&#039;ve always talked trash about the bad service we get from firms. What&#039;s different is that any one individual&#039;s sphere of influence is greatly expanded. Technology has become a magnifying glass: That wart a firm has in customer service can&#039;t be hidden anymore.

I agree 100% with your advice. What I&#039;m arguing here is that what has changed -- what has caused the need for your advice -- has more to do with changes in technology than it does with any fundamental change in people or a change in the &quot;effectiveness&quot; of marketing channels. And that marketing&#039;s &quot;dominant logic&quot; isn&#039;t really that different than it was 10 or 20 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: Thanks for commenting. You make a great point about the economics of communications and marketers&#8217; lack of control.</p>
<p>But why has the economics of communication changed? Because of technology. We&#8217;ve always talked trash about the bad service we get from firms. What&#8217;s different is that any one individual&#8217;s sphere of influence is greatly expanded. Technology has become a magnifying glass: That wart a firm has in customer service can&#8217;t be hidden anymore.</p>
<p>I agree 100% with your advice. What I&#8217;m arguing here is that what has changed &#8212; what has caused the need for your advice &#8212; has more to do with changes in technology than it does with any fundamental change in people or a change in the &#8220;effectiveness&#8221; of marketing channels. And that marketing&#8217;s &#8220;dominant logic&#8221; isn&#8217;t really that different than it was 10 or 20 years ago.</p>
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